[lugm.org] University of Mauritius Head technician

Thu Apr 19 08:37:18 UTC 2012

Shaan's got it :D

On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Shaan Nobee <s.nobee at yahoo.com> wrote:

> It's a life-cycle.
> As long as the educational system is based on rote-learning, everything
> will stay the same.
>
> Most of the lecturers you are talking about also went through the
> Mauritian educational system,
> so most of them will probably find it normal that students are learning
> this way.
> Even the way they teach is biased towards rote-learning.
>
> For example, subjects such as Maths, where you might think that
> rote-learning cannot work, still works.
> Most students only mechanically apply the steps to solve the problems
> without even knowing the theory behind it.
>
> There can't be a lot of progress this way, students need to learn to solve
> problems creatively, by using their own ideas,
> than just applying already existing knowledge and taking everything for
> granted. This would require a major rework on the whole education system,
> from the pre-primary school level to the tertiary level. But once the
> first steps are made, things would start working automatically since the
> next
> generations would think differently.
>
> In short, the education system is more biased towards developing the
> "Crystallized" intelligence(solving problems based on already acquired
> knowledge) of students,
> than making them develop their "Fluid" intelligence (ability to solve
> problems in novel situations).
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_and_crystallized_intelligence
>
> As long as the educational system remains like this, things will stay the
> same.
> This is only my opinion.
>
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> *From:* TripleZ Seventeen <triplezliveson at gmail.com>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:03 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [lugm.org] University of Mauritius Head technician
>
> The issue here is not about whether the lecturers use rote learning in the
> first place or not. It's more about how come we have lecturers, who, as the
> students here have been saying, a bit incompetent. Do you blame the
> lecturer for not knowing, or the system for not knowing how to recruit
> people. This leads us to another interesting question, where are those who
> actually know the subject? My bet? Pissed off with an educational system
> that doesn't work, and doesn't care about whether the students learn or
> not. The educational system only cares about making money, and creating the
> maximum number of graduates.
>
> You can blame the lecturer, but at most what will happen is that the
> lecturer will be removed, and you'll get another, who will probably be the
> same.
> Want to do something worthwhile, change the system.
>
> -naresh
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:52 AM, selven <pcthegreat at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What the heck is going on here. Stop judging people.
>
>
> +selven
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Yasir MX <yasirmx at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  there's a lecturer who has suggested a project regarding networking bet
> he/she does not know whether you can have multiple network cards in the
> PC...
>
> rote learning yes!100% agree
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:12:41 +0400
> From: pcthegreat at gmail.com
> To: discuss at lugm.org
> Subject: Re: [lugm.org] University of Mauritius Head technician
>
>
> :) Problem is :p the entire educational system is based on rote learning
> here in Mauritius ... and England (where our system seems to be based from).
>
> interesting vid
> http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, bbnadim <bbnadim at intnet.mu> wrote:
>
>
>  On 18 April 2012 17:30, selven <pcthegreat at gmail.com> wrote:
> :) Well, legally they can do that i believe.
>
>
> +1. But I was taking about something else : Parroting, without
> understanding. If you understand a topic, then u can explain it in your own
> words, in your style...
>
>  [...] the lecturer is supposed to be just a guide where if one
>
> is stucked can just query his opinions or if is in the wrong path get
> guided a lil bit by the lecturers.
> [...]
>
>
> +1. BUT, how many can guide the students correctly ? Dunno about the
> lecturers at present, but i had a very bad experience when i was at UoM
> back some 15 years ago. Academically someone can be very good, but i think
> we need to be practical rather that learning by heart ...
>
> Personally I believe lecturers SHOULD have at least 3-5 years experience
> in the field (job market ?) before giving lectures or talk about a topic.
>
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