Shaan's got it :D <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 4:31 AM, Shaan Nobee <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:s.nobee@yahoo.com">s.nobee@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><span>It's a life-cycle.</span></div><div><span>As long as the educational system is based on rote-learning, everything will stay the same.<br>
</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Most of the lecturers you are talking about also went through the Mauritian educational system,</span></div><div><span>so most of them will probably find it normal that students are learning this way.</span></div>
<div><span>Even the way they teach is biased towards rote-learning.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>For example, subjects such as Maths, where you might think that rote-learning cannot work, still works.</div>
<div>Most students only mechanically apply the steps to solve the problems without even knowing the theory behind it.<br></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>There can't be a lot of progress this way,
students need to learn to solve problems creatively, by using their own ideas,</span></div><div><span>than just applying already existing knowledge and taking everything for granted. This would require a major rework on the whole education system,</span></div>
<div><span>from the pre-primary school level to the tertiary level. But once the first steps are made, things would start working automatically since the next</span></div><div><span>generations would think differently.<br>
</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>In short, the education system is more biased towards developing the "Crystallized" intelligence(solving problems based on already acquired knowledge) of students,</span></div>
<div><span>than making them develop their "Fluid" intelligence (ability to solve problems in novel situations). </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_and_crystallized_intelligence" target="_blank"><span>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_and_crystallized_intelligence</span></a></div>
<div><br></div><div>As long as the educational system remains like this, things will stay the same.</div><div>This is only my opinion.<br></div><div><br></div><div>--0x1337<br></div> <div style="font-family:verdana,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> TripleZ Seventeen <<a href="mailto:triplezliveson@gmail.com" target="_blank">triplezliveson@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> LUGM Discuss Mailing List <<a href="mailto:discuss@lugm.org" target="_blank">discuss@lugm.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:03 PM<div>
<div class="h5"><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">lugm.org</a>] University of Mauritius
Head technician<br> </div></div></font> </div><div><div class="h5"> <br>
<div>The issue here is not about whether the lecturers use rote learning in the first place or not. It's more about how come we have lecturers, who, as the students here have been saying, a bit incompetent. Do you blame the lecturer for not knowing, or the system for not knowing how to recruit people. This leads us to another interesting question, where are those who actually know the subject? My bet? Pissed off with an educational system that doesn't work, and doesn't care about whether the students learn or not. The educational system only cares about making money, and creating the maximum number of graduates.<div>
<br></div><div>You can blame the lecturer, but at most what will happen is that the lecturer will be removed, and you'll get another, who will probably be the same.</div><div>Want to do something worthwhile, change the system.</div>
<div><br></div><div>-naresh<br><br><div>On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:52 AM, selven <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:pcthegreat@gmail.com" target="_blank">pcthegreat@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
What the heck is going on here. Stop judging people.<span><font color="#888888"><br><br><br>+selven</font></span><div><div><br><br><br><div>On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Yasir MX <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:yasirmx@hotmail.com" target="_blank">yasirmx@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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there's a lecturer who has suggested a project regarding networking bet he/she does not know whether you can have multiple network cards in the PC...<br><br>rote learning yes!100% agree<br><br><div><div></div><hr>Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:12:41 +0400<br>
From: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:pcthegreat@gmail.com" target="_blank">pcthegreat@gmail.com</a><br>To: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:discuss@lugm.org" target="_blank">discuss@lugm.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [<a rel="nofollow" href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">lugm.org</a>] University of Mauritius Head technician<div>
<div><br><br>:) Problem is :p the entire educational system is based on rote learning here in Mauritius ... and England (where our system seems to be based from).<br><br>interesting vid <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html" target="_blank">http://www.ted.com/talks/ken_robinson_says_schools_kill_creativity.html</a><br>
<br><div>On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, bbnadim <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:bbnadim@intnet.mu" target="_blank">bbnadim@intnet.mu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On 18 April 2012 17:30, selven <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:pcthegreat@gmail.com" target="_blank">pcthegreat@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
:) Well, legally they can do that i believe.<br>
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+1. But I was taking about something else : Parroting, without understanding. If you understand a topic, then u can explain it in your own words, in your style...<br>
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[...] the lecturer is supposed to be just a guide where if one<div><br>
is stucked can just query his opinions or if is in the wrong path get<br>
guided a lil bit by the lecturers.<br></div>
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+1. BUT, how many can guide the students correctly ? Dunno about the lecturers at present, but i had a very bad experience when i was at UoM back some 15 years ago. Academically someone can be very good, but i think we need to be practical rather that learning by heart ...<br>
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Personally I believe lecturers SHOULD have at least 3-5 years experience in the field (job market ?) before giving lectures or talk about a topic.<div><div><br>
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