[lugm.org] Visibility and awareness of LUGM

Thu Jan 20 10:11:30 UTC 2011

I think you went in a different direction here, Ronny.

And besides, what is all the issue with getting newbies?  Do we get points
for that?  We have other objectives also, which we also failed as a
managing committee.

> as time goes, LUGS as ajay said are no more same.
> Its been noticed worldwide.
> at some time, we were all fanatics/lunatics (better word for nerds)
> but now, for most of us in the LUGs, we are professionals with less time
> to
> do the main goal of the LUGs: advocate for linux (and open source)
>
> that said, sure, i agree, that LUGM is kinda dormant, and i do really
> think
> that logan is right in thinking that we need new blood.
>
> AND THAT THE PROBLEM OF MAURITIUS.
> we dont attract people because all the jobs are winblow$ based-
>
> We can count on one hand the companies who offer jobs for people with
> linux
> knowledge
> we can even name them
> tuxlab
> linkbynet
> orinux
> the company where selven works
> the company where logan is forcing the use of linux
>
> WORSE: when you are a linux guy, you dont get girlfriends since you dont
> use
> smileys and other shits in msn :P
>
> i can be wrong in the counting though, but i dont see offers.
>
> In mauritius, the system taught at the UOM or even from primary school is
> to
> always cover your back: so the saying in case of trouble - pas moi sa, li
> sa.
> So they always choose some system that offers support (redhat never comes
> to
> mind of the "IT Director")
>
> So for mauritius, its more the political power that we need, and none of
> us
> have the right contacts.
> I think that one way is to use india as example and show those bastards
> decisions makers who are paid by our tax money.
> and also maybe play their game....
>
> sectarian group X (with tappeurs) is using linux, why not us :)
>
> as for now, what i see, is that most of us in the linux world in mauritus,
> well we are all self learners and dont really need teaching cos dont
> forget,
> we all learnt linux by ourselfs with a little/big help from the
> veterans(not
> in age though)
> So meetings wont be that interresting for us. (even though one regarding
> capturing films from myt was quite interresting - demo given from a guy
> who
> was using tin cans as wifi antennas :) )
> UNLESS we do manage to get a group of convinced newbies.
> But how?
>
> My nephew is at the IVTB in PL and learning IT: he already hacked the
> laptop
> of his teacher and also cleaned the computer lab of viruses.
> and he does not even know bash, he only uses ubuntu.
> all this to say, that its all political.
> As long as as we dont get in that stratum, we wont go further... (dunno if
> the word stratum is the right one)
>
>
>
> Regarding forum, i agree totally with ajay, but we will need moderation
> and
> with the net becoming real time, its tough.
> I think this is the reluctance of aadil.
>
>
> Anyway, as conclusion, we are all right and we are all wrong cos things
> have
> change.
> and thus we need to change, thus I think we will need to
> 1. see how other LUGs managed the change
> 2. see if we can adapt these changes to mauritian realities and its
> s******** governing bodies
> 3. who has time (no life?)
>
> Have a good cavedee
> Ronny
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Ajay R Ramjatan
> <ajay.ramjatan at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> The forum had more traffic involving newbies than the mailing list.
>> There were more questions asked and answered over there. Do you have
>> any reason for not bringing back something that worked?
>>
>> The things that we do need to be rethinked. LUGS are no longer that
>> they used to be.
>> Distributions are friendlier to install, hence less and less
>> Installfests. Broadband is more available, hence less people look for
>> CDs and DVDs to install. One thing I particularly liked is when
>> someone asked for help and someone from the LUG who lived close to him
>> went there to help.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:41 PM,  <aadil at lavabit.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I am against bringing back the forum.
>> >
>> > Yours truly,
>> > Aadil.
>> >
>> >> Hi Guys / Girls,
>> >>
>> >> Agree with Ajay, forum is always a nice way to communicate with
>> others
>> >> even if we are a member to the mailing list / LUGM members or no.
>> >>
>> >> Web site is for general content regarding the LUGM news, events , and
>> >> misc content.
>> >>
>> >> well bring it up asap :D
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Anoop.
>> >> Email : analyserx at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Fingerprint :Ã‚  C886 6BFF 6057 E357 5088Ã‚  D02B BD5F 9291 EA18 5A51
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Ajay R Ramjatan
>> >> <ajay.ramjatan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> We need our forum back. It does not require people to register to
>> the
>> >>> mailing list to ask questions. Forums are awesome.. we had one but
>> >>> lost it on the road. I can bring it back up quick.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Jochen KirstÃƒÂ¤tter <lugm at ios.mu>
>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On 18/01/11 16:12, thiery louison wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> What is needed is quality articles, that is more oriented towards
>> >>> newbies.
>> >>> >> A place where new comers would not be afraid to ask question or
>> or
>> >>> expose
>> >>> >> there failures. It should be a place where answers to questions
>> would
>> >>> not be
>> >>> >> one-liners(RTFM or Google it).
>> >>> >
>> >>> > That's why I came up with the idea to aggregate individual
>> bloggers
>> >>> for the
>> >>> > LUGM website.
>> >>> > Take it as a start and see how it will work out.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Anyone read "The Bazaar and the Cathedrale"?
>> >>> > Literally, LUGM stands for the cathedrale instead of the bazaar!
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> I personally believe that for a such a site to exist. it should
>> >>> organize
>> >>> >> events(Quarterly basis, School Holidays) such as install
>> Festival,
>> >>> Boot
>> >>> >> Camps and many more.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Sure, but there are also individual interests of LUGM members to
>> earn
>> >>> > money... So, there might be a dilemma...
>> >>> >
>> >>> > --
>> >>> > Kind regards.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Ã¯Â»Â¿Ã¯Â»Â¿A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of
>> discussion
>> >>> > Q. Why is top posting bad?
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Get Blogged by JoKi - "The only frontiers are in your mind"
>> >>> > Ã‚ http://jochen.kirstaetter.name/ - http://www.ios.mu/
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
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