[lugm.org] Visibility and awareness of LUGM

Loganaden Velvindron gnukid1 at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Jan 19 18:42:55 UTC 2011 

A new tag line to attract newbies:
``Want to have girlfriends ? Install Ubuntu on a laptop. ''

As for the cantenna, my mom couldn't bear the sight of something that
lacked beauty in the house, It was relocated to my room.

 
--- On Wed, 19/1/11, Ronny R. <redoverlord at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ronny R. <redoverlord at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [lugm.org] Visibility and awareness of LUGM
To: "LUGM Discuss Mailing List" <discuss at lugm.org>
Date: Wednesday, 19 January, 2011, 18:00

as time goes, LUGS as ajay said are no more same.
Its been noticed worldwide.
at some time, we were all fanatics/lunatics (better word for nerds)
but now, for most of us in the LUGs, we are professionals with less time to do the main goal of the LUGs: advocate for linux (and open source)


that said, sure, i agree, that LUGM is kinda dormant, and i do really think that logan is right in thinking that we need new blood.

AND THAT THE PROBLEM OF MAURITIUS.
we dont attract people because all the jobs are winblow$ based-


We can count on one hand the companies who offer jobs for people with linux knowledge
we can even name them
tuxlab
linkbynet
orinux
the company where selven works
the company where logan is forcing the use of linux


WORSE: when you are a linux guy, you dont get girlfriends since you dont use smileys and other shits in msn :P

i can be wrong in the counting though, but i dont see offers.

In mauritius, the system taught at the UOM or even from primary school is to always cover your back: so the saying in case of trouble - pas moi sa, li sa.

So they always choose some system that offers support (redhat never comes to mind of the "IT Director")

So for mauritius, its more the political power that we need, and none of us have the right contacts.

I think that one way is to use india as example and show those bastards decisions makers who are paid by our tax money.
and also maybe play their game....

sectarian group X (with tappeurs) is using linux, why not us :)


as for now, what i see, is that most of us in the linux world in mauritus, well we are all self learners and dont really need teaching cos dont forget, we all learnt linux by ourselfs with a little/big help from the veterans(not in age though)

So meetings wont be that interresting for us. (even though one regarding capturing films from myt was quite interresting - demo given from a guy who was using tin cans as wifi antennas :) )
UNLESS we do manage to get a group of convinced newbies.

But how?

My nephew is at the IVTB in PL and learning IT: he already hacked the laptop of his teacher and also cleaned the computer lab of viruses.
and he does not even know bash, he only uses ubuntu.
all this to say, that its all political.

As long as as we dont get in that stratum, we wont go further... (dunno if the word stratum is the right one)





Regarding forum, i agree totally with ajay, but we will need moderation and with the net becoming real time, its tough.
I think this is the reluctance of aadil.



Anyway, as conclusion, we are all right and we are all wrong cos things have change.
and thus we need to change, thus I think we will need to 
1. see how other LUGs managed the change
2. see if we can adapt these changes to mauritian realities and its s******** governing bodies

3. who has time (no life?)

Have a good cavedee
Ronny



On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Ajay R Ramjatan <ajay.ramjatan at gmail.com> wrote:

The forum had more traffic involving newbies than the mailing list.

There were more questions asked and answered over there. Do you have

any reason for not bringing back something that worked?



The things that we do need to be rethinked. LUGS are no longer that

they used to be.

Distributions are friendlier to install, hence less and less

Installfests. Broadband is more available, hence less people look for

CDs and DVDs to install. One thing I particularly liked is when

someone asked for help and someone from the LUG who lived close to him

went there to help.



On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:41 PM,  <aadil at lavabit.com> wrote:

> Hello,

>

> I am against bringing back the forum.

>

> Yours truly,

> Aadil.

>

>> Hi Guys / Girls,

>>

>> Agree with Ajay, forum is always a nice way to communicate with others

>> even if we are a member to the mailing list / LUGM members or no.

>>

>> Web site is for general content regarding the LUGM news, events , and

>> misc content.

>>

>> well bring it up asap :D

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Anoop.

>> Email : analyserx at gmail.com

>>

>>

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>>

>>

>>

>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Ajay R Ramjatan

>> <ajay.ramjatan at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> We need our forum back. It does not require people to register to the

>>> mailing list to ask questions. Forums are awesome.. we had one but

>>> lost it on the road. I can bring it back up quick.

>>>

>>> On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Jochen Kirstätter <lugm at ios.mu> wrote:

>>> > Hi,

>>> >

>>> > On 18/01/11 16:12, thiery louison wrote:

>>> >>

>>> >> What is needed is quality articles, that is more oriented towards

>>> newbies.

>>> >> A place where new comers would not be afraid to ask question or or

>>> expose

>>> >> there failures. It should be a place where answers to questions would

>>> not be

>>> >> one-liners(RTFM or Google it).

>>> >

>>> > That's why I came up with the idea to aggregate individual bloggers

>>> for the

>>> > LUGM website.

>>> > Take it as a start and see how it will work out.

>>> >

>>> > Anyone read "The Bazaar and the Cathedrale"?

>>> > Literally, LUGM stands for the cathedrale instead of the bazaar!

>>> >

>>> >> I personally believe that for a such a site to exist. it should

>>> organize

>>> >> events(Quarterly basis, School Holidays) such as install Festival,

>>> Boot

>>> >> Camps and many more.

>>> >

>>> > Sure, but there are also individual interests of LUGM members to earn

>>> > money... So, there might be a dilemma...

>>> >

>>> > --

>>> > Kind regards.

>>> >

>>> > A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion

>>> > Q. Why is top posting bad?

>>> >

>>> > Get Blogged by JoKi - "The only frontiers are in your mind"

>>> >  http://jochen.kirstaetter.name/ - http://www.ios.mu/

>>> >

>>> >

>>> > __________________________________________________________

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>>> > Mailing list archive: http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/

>>> > Forum: http://lugm.org/forum/

>>> > IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode

>>> >

>>>

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