[lugm.org] Announcing a Mauritian tech forum

Tue Dec 17 20:45:02 UTC 2013

Cry as much as you want, MT doesn't give a shit.

If only you knew how much it cost per mbit to route through malaysia & the
price you are paying...

Normally from MU to Malaysia, its around 65 - 85 ms.

K

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:33 AM, selven <pcthegreat at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ipv6, great stuffs, but why would i change if currently v4 is not much a
> problem for me. Even as a tech user i just adapt only out of need to keep
> myself as lazy as possible.
>
> Mauritian hosting easy to say but how do you provide cheap hosting given
> the crappy connection versus price we have here?
>
> Singapore, some ips go through malaysia some still goes through linx weird
> peering. That is also why am unable to use my quakelive premium account in
> singapore any more, latency is a b*tch.
>
> How would you propose to solve the hosting problem without having to give
> up all your fortune to MT and still get any profit out of it? Setting up
> local exchange points and bypassing isp crazy rivalry? Who sponsors the
> scene?
>
> :) the problem is not technical it is with the people itself no one can do
> anything about it because of the society's corruptive nature.
>
> Binary.mu might work, i remember when i was still running hackers.mu it
> used to run decently with decent amount of ppl without me actually doing
> anything to it. Problem is you need lots of patience to keep focus into
> moderating the place.
>
> Good luck for binary.mu
> On Dec 18, 2013 12:02 AM, "Avinash Meetoo" <avinash at noulakaz.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm curious.
>>
>> What local hosting provider has decent prices AND IPv6?
>>
>> Another question : given that most Mauritians access the Internet using
>> an IPv4 address assigned by their ISP, what does IPv6 bring for them?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Avinash
>> On Dec 17, 2013 10:28 PM, "Keshwarsingh Nadan" <
>> keshwarsingh.nadan at servihoo.net> wrote:
>>
>>> fck you are damn right. +101 _)))
>>>
>>> K
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Nishal Goburdhan <ndg at ieee.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 17 Dec 2013, at 5:05 PM, Vy-Shane Sin Fat <shane at node.mu> wrote:
>>>> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Nishal Goburdhan <ndg at ieee.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > The site is hosted on Amazon's EC2. I picked EC2 simply because...
>>>>
>>>> full disclosure:  i'm neither mauritian, nor based in MU anymore.  i
>>>> monitor this list out of curiosity mostly.  which also means i have zero
>>>> commercial interest in this.
>>>>
>>>> from my days in MU, there seems to be a large culture of "not caring
>>>> where we host".
>>>> (actually, it was worse that that;  it was also a "not caring how we're
>>>> addressed";  i have strong issues with companies that have mail addresses
>>>> ending in @gmail.com / intnet.mu because, it tells me that they lack
>>>> their own online business identity, which i think is important.)
>>>>
>>>> i've always believed that the goal to success is to lead by example;
>>>>  the organisation that i did have ties to while i was in MU, made a point
>>>> of keeping, and hosting, the mauritian facing part of their infrastructure
>>>> in MU, even though it was more expensive.  i know that some people on this
>>>> list share that mentality.  i think that's an important part of growing the
>>>> local market.
>>>>
>>>> my point about "not hosting in MU" was really, to kickstart some local
>>>> organisation into seeing that this is actually something useful, and
>>>> perhaps gearing them to work with you, and vice-versa.  after all, if you
>>>> don't start investing in your own local environment, don't expect others
>>>> to... !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> ** makes access to this slower for MU users, which in turn would
>>>> make them less likely to want to contribute
>>>> >
>>>> > The box is hosted in Singapore, which among EC2's regions, is I think
>>>> > the best the region for Mauritian users. I've kept graphics to a
>>>> > minimum on the site. Hopefully load times shouldn't be too much of a
>>>> > problem.
>>>>
>>>> from what i remember of the way that MT and Emtel do their routing,
>>>> that's probably not going to be the case.
>>>> they both breakout for IP transit in europe primarily, although MT does
>>>> have a branch to malaysia telecom.
>>>> that used to be used for backup mostly, but that might have changed;  i
>>>> see a traceroute from MU does indeed go MY->SG, so that's good for now!
>>>>
>>>> anyway..that's not necessarily relevant :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> * as a sometimes techie, i'd say:   "what, no IPv6?"     ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > IPv6 isn't a priority at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....don't say it like that  :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > I won't rule it out, but I think
>>>> > that the biggest challenge for the site is not technical at all. The
>>>> > question is: does Mauritius even need a tech forum? Will people be
>>>> > interested enough to join and use it? If no one uses the site, it'll
>>>> > just quietly fade away.
>>>>
>>>> in south africa, there's a local end-user/tech forum called
>>>> mybroadband(.co.za).
>>>> i forget the history (it's been a while) but it started as just a way
>>>> for people to write about/discuss their online experiences.  at the time,
>>>> this was limited to just the DSL offering from the incumbent, but over
>>>> time, this has grown, and become the de-facto go-to site for most home
>>>> networking / general simple tech issues.  analogous to the whirlpool forums
>>>> that you'd find in australia.
>>>> one thing that spawned from these forums, was some sort of tech
>>>> journalism - see http://mybroadband.co.za/news/
>>>> they've gown - so much so, that they now have an annual large meeting
>>>> that attracts *lots* of folks.
>>>> that's *one* possible growth path for you...iirc, there's just the
>>>> orange tech fair that happens once a year in MU as a generic "tech" show,
>>>> and that's just around stuff that they sell.
>>>>
>>>> let me be clear;  i support the idea of a tech-forum.  but, as you
>>>> rightfully said, it should be something that the locals want, and that they
>>>> support.  props to you for setting this up - and double props for using a
>>>> .mu domain as i know it's hideously expensive.   a good thing to use this
>>>> forum for, is to show best practices - two of which i outlined earlier -
>>>> local hosting (the need for it), and IPv6 - and that's why i mentioned them
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> i'm guessing you have a strategy to market this inside MU, or is that
>>>> what this post is - to ask for marketing strategies - and bring awareness -
>>>> to/from the list inhabitants?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> as a more networking related geek, i'd bemoan that there isn't a
>>>> "networking" section, but i guess that this is aimed at home users, so the
>>>> routing protocol market is small here ;-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --n.
>>>> >
>>>> > I've renamed the forum "The Server Room" to "Servers and Networking"
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> heh.  thanks  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> --n.
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