[lugm.org] OpenSSH is in financial trouble

[selven]

Plus in trouble or not in trouble :D we all use openssh :) ... sometimes
some openbsd codes also :p. Plus we are not [and shouldn't] be pulling money
off the lug's fund, but from individual members pocket :p, atleast that
would look as a concrete action we did to contribute back up to the
community (:p more concrete than that :p we'll have to start injecting codes
on the project itself like the velvindron dude :D  )

+selven

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:03 AM, selven <pcthegreat at gmail.com> wrote:

> hmm its not about convincing people, its voluntary stuffs, if one wants,
> one gives, besides :p its not wise to announce that money is needed on a
> product's front page :D .. imagine the image that this leaks out :).
>
> +selven
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Loganaden Velvindron <
> gnukid1 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> OpenSSH is deeply related to OpenBSD.
>>
>> I'll give a concrete example: some years ago, a guy rewrote openbsd's
>> malloc to make it much more strict, and the OpenSSH developers used
>> the new malloc to catch bugs that would otherwise go unoticed.
>>
>> OpenSSH is just a part of OpenBSD. If OpenBSD dies, so does a lot of
>> potential good work for OpenSSH.
>>
>>
>> //Logan
>> C-x-C-c
>>
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 21/4/11, Ronny R. <redoverlord at gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Ronny R. <redoverlord at gmail.com>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [lugm.org] OpenSSH is in financial trouble
>> To: "LUGM Discuss Mailing List" <discuss at lugm.org>
>> Date: Thursday, 21 April, 2011, 13:51
>>
>>
>> apart from the link you sent us, i see nothing on the openssh web site.
>>
>> Would be hard to convince ppl that way.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Loganaden Velvindron <
>> gnukid1 at yahoo.co.uk <http://mc/compose?to=gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>>
>> OK, I got some updates from thib at . Basically, when donating to
>> OpenBSD, and some of that money trickles to OpenSSH.
>>
>> To put this another way, innovations in openbsd, also go in
>> OpenSSH.
>>
>> The OpenBSD ppl would prefer CD Sales to support cvs.openbsd.org,
>> and assure us that OpenSSH will directly benefit from this as well.
>>
>> I can personally vouch for those CDs, they're really cool, plus you have
>> some really cool stickers (that you can stick on your laptops like I do
>> ;-)).
>>
>> Any objections to this ?
>>
>>
>> //Logan
>> C-x-C-c
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 20/4/11, Loganaden Velvindron <gnukid1 at yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Loganaden Velvindron <gnukid1 at yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk>
>> >
>>
>> Subject: Re: [lugm.org] OpenSSH is in financial trouble
>> To: "LUGM Discuss Mailing List" <discuss at lugm.org<http://mc/compose?to=discuss@lugm.org>
>> >
>> Date: Wednesday, 20 April, 2011, 20:13
>>
>>
>> The t-shirts have little profit margins for OpenBSD.
>>
>> CD sales finance cvs.openbsd.org (in other words the infrastructure
>> and theo's salary).
>>
>> Donation (money) finances the hackathon (for 1 week, openbsd
>> meet and work on code, this results in burts of activity in cvs logs).
>>
>> The CD sales are the problem here. Personally I'd much prefer buying
>> CD Sales, since hackathons are not really an issue for now, even if they
>> are given away for conf/meetings. However, I understand that most people
>> care about OpenSSH, rather than OpenBSD. I'my trying to find a good
>> way to get this going. I'll inform you guys as I get the info I need from
>> openbsd folks.
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 20/4/11, aadil at lavabit.com<http://mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com>
>> <aadil at avabit.com <http://mc/compose?to=aadil@avabit.com>>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: aadil at lavabit.com <http://mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com> <
>> aadil at lavabit.com <http://mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [lugm.org] OpenSSH is in financial trouble
>> To: "LUGM Discuss Mailing List" <discuss at lugm.org<http://mc/compose?to=discuss@lugm.org>
>> >
>> Date: Wednesday, 20 April, 2011, 16:16
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I  think the LUGM can also donate money, or preferably buy CDs and/or
>> tshirts to be given away at the incoming Open Source conference.
>>
>> What do the other members of the committee think?
>>
>> Yours truly,
>> Aadil.
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > OpenSSH could cease to exist. Why ? The OpenBSD CD sales
>> > are very much less this year. OpenSSH is financed through
>> > the OpenBSD CD sales.
>> >
>> > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=130317982728763&w=2
>> >
>> > To cut a long story short, if OpenBSD doesn't sell enough
>> > CDs with the 4.9 release, there WILL be no money for producing
>> > CDs next year. Part of the CD sales keep Theo de raadt employed
>> > full-time on openbsd.
>> >
>> > CD sales are very important, since OpenBSD is one of the last
>> > ``true'' open source systems. Instead of doing a commercial/community
>> > release, there is a single release for everybody.
>> >
>> > As such, openbsd requires a constant source of revenue in the form
>> > of CD sales. The CDs are ~ Rs 1500.00
>> >
>> >
>> > //Logan
>> > C-x-C-c
>> >
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