[lugm.org] OpenSSH is in financial trouble

Thu Apr 21 15:03:25 UTC 2011

hmm its not about convincing people, its voluntary stuffs, if one wants, one
gives, besides :p its not wise to announce that money is needed on a
product's front page :D .. imagine the image that this leaks out :).

+selven

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Loganaden Velvindron
<gnukid1 at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> OpenSSH is deeply related to OpenBSD.
>
> I'll give a concrete example: some years ago, a guy rewrote openbsd's
> malloc to make it much more strict, and the OpenSSH developers used
> the new malloc to catch bugs that would otherwise go unoticed.
>
> OpenSSH is just a part of OpenBSD. If OpenBSD dies, so does a lot of
> potential good work for OpenSSH.
>
>
> //Logan
> C-x-C-c
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 21/4/11, Ronny R. <redoverlord at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Ronny R. <redoverlord at gmail.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [lugm.org] OpenSSH is in financial trouble
> To: "LUGM Discuss Mailing List" <discuss at lugm.org>
> Date: Thursday, 21 April, 2011, 13:51
>
>
> apart from the link you sent us, i see nothing on the openssh web site.
>
> Would be hard to convince ppl that way.
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Loganaden Velvindron <
> gnukid1 at yahoo.co.uk <http://mc/compose?to=gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> OK, I got some updates from thib at . Basically, when donating to
> OpenBSD, and some of that money trickles to OpenSSH.
>
> To put this another way, innovations in openbsd, also go in
> OpenSSH.
>
> The OpenBSD ppl would prefer CD Sales to support cvs.openbsd.org,
> and assure us that OpenSSH will directly benefit from this as well.
>
> I can personally vouch for those CDs, they're really cool, plus you have
> some really cool stickers (that you can stick on your laptops like I do
> ;-)).
>
> Any objections to this ?
>
>
> //Logan
> C-x-C-c
>
> --- On *Wed, 20/4/11, Loganaden Velvindron <gnukid1 at yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Loganaden Velvindron <gnukid1 at yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk>
> >
>
> Subject: Re: [lugm.org] OpenSSH is in financial trouble
> To: "LUGM Discuss Mailing List" <discuss at lugm.org<http://mc/compose?to=discuss@lugm.org>
> >
> Date: Wednesday, 20 April, 2011, 20:13
>
>
> The t-shirts have little profit margins for OpenBSD.
>
> CD sales finance cvs.openbsd.org (in other words the infrastructure
> and theo's salary).
>
> Donation (money) finances the hackathon (for 1 week, openbsd
> meet and work on code, this results in burts of activity in cvs logs).
>
> The CD sales are the problem here. Personally I'd much prefer buying
> CD Sales, since hackathons are not really an issue for now, even if they
> are given away for conf/meetings. However, I understand that most people
> care about OpenSSH, rather than OpenBSD. I'my trying to find a good
> way to get this going. I'll inform you guys as I get the info I need from
> openbsd folks.
>
> --- On *Wed, 20/4/11, aadil at lavabit.com<http://mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com>
> <aadil at avabit.com <http://mc/compose?to=aadil@avabit.com>>* wrote:
>
>
> From: aadil at lavabit.com <http://mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com> <
> aadil at lavabit.com <http://mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com>>
> Subject: Re: [lugm.org] OpenSSH is in financial trouble
> To: "LUGM Discuss Mailing List" <discuss at lugm.org<http://mc/compose?to=discuss@lugm.org>
> >
> Date: Wednesday, 20 April, 2011, 16:16
>
> Hello,
>
> I  think the LUGM can also donate money, or preferably buy CDs and/or
> tshirts to be given away at the incoming Open Source conference.
>
> What do the other members of the committee think?
>
> Yours truly,
> Aadil.
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > OpenSSH could cease to exist. Why ? The OpenBSD CD sales
> > are very much less this year. OpenSSH is financed through
> > the OpenBSD CD sales.
> >
> > http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=130317982728763&w=2
> >
> > To cut a long story short, if OpenBSD doesn't sell enough
> > CDs with the 4.9 release, there WILL be no money for producing
> > CDs next year. Part of the CD sales keep Theo de raadt employed
> > full-time on openbsd.
> >
> > CD sales are very important, since OpenBSD is one of the last
> > ``true'' open source systems. Instead of doing a commercial/community
> > release, there is a single release for everybody.
> >
> > As such, openbsd requires a constant source of revenue in the form
> > of CD sales. The CDs are ~ Rs 1500.00
> >
> >
> > //Logan
> > C-x-C-c
> >
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