<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:14px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2740"><span></span></div> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2799">Sorry Nishal, I meant ISPs, not IXPs.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2800"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2801">For the XMPP server, it would *really* help if we could get latencies of around 2-20ms across the different Local ISPs. Don't you think so ?</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2801"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2801">I have a 10Mb/s upload speed, and I think that for a voice call among people in Mauritius is a good idea.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2801"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2801">Btw, Nishal what is your opinion about putting probes such as RIPE atlas probes between different Local ISPs to see the latency among them to raise awareness of the peering problems ?</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2801"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2801"><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2796"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2789" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 14px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2788"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2787"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2791"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2790"> On Friday, 23 October 2015, 12:05, Nishal Goburdhan <nishal@controlfreak.co.za> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2786"><div id="yiv0427448049"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2785"><div><span></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2784"><div id="yiv0427448049AppleMailSignature">On 23 Oct 2015, at 08:57, Loganaden Velvindron <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk">gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2810"><br clear="none"></div><blockquote type="cite" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2795"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2794"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:14px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2793"><div id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5746"><span>Hi Cyril,</span></div><div id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5746"><span><br clear="none"></span></div> <div dir="ltr" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5843">It doesn't use peer-to-peer, as far as I know. However, if we had a viber server in Emtel datacenter, we can leverage a low latency across different IXPs to get better quality. </div></div></div></blockquote><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2792"><br clear="none"></div>no this is incorrect.<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_3021">in its life cycle, a packet will not traverse _different_ IXPs.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2840">there is no economic model for that.</div><div>i would be interested to see a traceroute showing otherwise.</div><div> </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2805"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2804"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2803"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:14px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2802"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5843">It wouldn't matter if the viber customer is at Orange, or Bharat. As long as there's good peering, the latency will be ok, and so will the voice quality.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5843"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5843">We could also host our own XMPP server somewhere in Mauritius, and set up a service :-D</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>this, is what you want to do!</div><div>so what's stopping you? </div><div class="yiv0427448049yqt7163599232" id="yiv0427448049yqtfd69873"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2806"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2809"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2808"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:14px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2807"><div class="yiv0427448049qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5768"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0427448049yahoo_quoted" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5767" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5766" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:14px;"> <div id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5765" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5889"> <font id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5888" size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, 23 October 2015, 10:23, Cyril Bouthors <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:cyril@boutho.rs" target="_blank" href="mailto:cyril@boutho.rs" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1445588362566_2868">cyril@boutho.rs</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv0427448049y_msg_container" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5764"><div id="yiv0427448049"><div id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5763"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5762"><div class="yiv0427448049gmail_extra" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5761"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv0427448049gmail_quote" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5856">On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 12:29 AM, Loganaden Velvindron <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk">gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv0427448049gmail_quote" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5855" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5887">I have horrible voip quality with viber when I talk to Mauritian across a different ISP. I have 30Mb/s, whereas she has 10Mbit FTTH. Here bandwidth does not help, it's latency :)</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv0427448049yui_3_16_0_1_1445580371658_5854">Same goes for gamers hosting matches within Mauritius, but across different ISPs. <div class="yiv0427448049yj6qo yiv0427448049ajU"><div class="yiv0427448049ajR"></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none">Does Viber use peer to peer technology for calls?<div class="yiv0427448049yqt6946571980" id="yiv0427448049yqtfd25458"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none"><div class="yiv0427448049gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Cyril Bouthors <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://cyril.boutho.rs/" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;">http://cyril.boutho.rs/</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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