<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hello, I didn't have enough sleep when I sent the original mail.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>The person is not the head of technician, just a normal technician</span></div><div><span>who works there. I've just learned this. There are no head of technician</span></div><div><span>position in UoM. I should have checked carefully.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>That said, UoM lecturers are doing with what they can. Many of</span></div><div><span>their classes are severely under-funded, and they are doing the best</span></div><div><span>with what they have.<br></span></div><div><br></div><div>The mail was off-topic. Apologies :-)</div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman,new
york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> selven <pcthegreat@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> kn@servihoo.net; LUGM Discuss Mailing List <discuss@lugm.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 19 April 2012, 16:29<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [lugm.org] University of Mauritius Head technician<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv1931654305">"
<span style="">Most lecturers I came across are sort of retarded..</span> "<div>.. lies in the eyes of the beholder :)</div><div><br></div><div>:p :p :p<br><br><div class="yiv1931654305gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Keshwarsingh Nadan <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:kn@servihoo.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:kn@servihoo.net">kn@servihoo.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv1931654305gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">“</span>The lecturer is here to give you the logics behind whatever you want to study, but ultimately you will have to study it by yourself.”<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">Most lecturers I came across are sort of retarded.. <u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: gray;">Regards,<u></u><u></u></span></div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: gray;">kn<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:discuss-bounces@lugm.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lugm.org">discuss-bounces@lugm.org</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:discuss-bounces@lugm.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:discuss-bounces@lugm.org">discuss-bounces@lugm.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>selven<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 19, 2012 4:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Loganaden Velvindron; LUGM Discuss Mailing List</span></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lugm.org">lugm.org</a>] University of Mauritius Head technician<u></u><u></u></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv1931654305h5"><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">only problem with the car driving example is that this falls under a vocational training and not an academic training. You can't get the instincts to fly a jet plane out of the blue by taking a few car driving lessons.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">But if you know the principles of physics and know how to read your way through manuals and how to dig out information and be curious, :p you can have a chance at flying a jet plane out of the blue,<u></u><u></u></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">The problem as i see it, seems to be getting the right people to be placed in the right field. The lecturer is here to give you the logics behind whatever you want to study, but ultimately you will have to study it by yourself. <u></u><u></u></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">For example, if you take an algorithm class, its not to make you know a particular language, but it is about making you learn different ways to think in solving a problem. nothing more, the lecturer shouldn't be expected to hold you hand and teach you how to actually implement that in say XYZ industry problems. . . if he does that, then he's just being cool.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
<div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">It's not one graduate per house, but in the next decade it will be one frustrated degree holder per house - simply because when there'll be many graduates (BSc, BA, B.Engg holders),<u></u><u></u></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">Amen to that! <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">@logan, you are crazy. You are the dude with the more patches around. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">
+selven<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Loganaden Velvindron <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk">gnukid1@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
<div><div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">Interesting. Even when there were fewer students in UoM, I don't recall many outstanding graduates<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">from that University making any significant contribution to the field of "Computer Science". The only<u></u><u></u></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">exception is Selven who found bugs in Mac OS X, alerted apple, fixed bugs in GNU Screen, improved phpbb security, etc..<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div>
<div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">I still stand by my statement: UoM finds meaningless solutions to irrelevant problems. <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;" align="center">
<span style=""><hr width="100%" align="center" size="1"></span></div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><b><span style="">From:</span></b><span style=""> Mohammad Nadim Qaadiri Razavi Attari <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nadim.attari@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:nadim.attari@gmail.com">nadim.attari@gmail.com</a>><u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><span style=""><br><b>To:</b> LUGM Discuss Mailing List <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:discuss@lugm.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:discuss@lugm.org">discuss@lugm.org</a>> <u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><b><span style="">Sent:</span></b><span style=""> Thursday, 19 April 2012, 14:56<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><span style=""><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://lugm.org">lugm.org</a>] University of Mauritius Head technician<u></u><u></u></span></div>
</div></div><div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">On 19 April 2012 12:52, Jerry Lee <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:arag.mx7@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:arag.mx7@gmail.com">arag.mx7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">In regards to educational system that only care about making money, I think that's the same thing around the world. That's not just in Mauritius<u></u><u></u></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">+1 - Everywhere it's the same : mass-produce for industrialisation.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">Here in Mauritius, we can see many universities and campus cropping up lately. Are we producing quality or quantity (one graduate per house policy) ?<u></u><u></u></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">It's not one graduate per house, but in the next decade it will be one frustrated degree holder per house - simply because when there'll be many graduates (BSc, BA, B.Engg holders),<u></u><u></u></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;">
<div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">it will be difficult for firms to choose from them during recruitment. These firms will simply prefer MSc/MA holders... Degree holders will be frustrated, no work with a degree in hand ! Then the same will happend to MSc/MA holders..<u></u><u></u></div>
</div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">One graduate per house policy is just bullshit, imho.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div class="yiv1931654305MsoNormal">
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