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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I wonder who killed such a spicy ml… :-<>-:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> discuss-bounces@lugm.org [mailto:discuss-bounces@lugm.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Loganaden Velvindron<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> LUGM Discuss Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [lugm.org] Fwd: [FTF-Legal] Mildly GPL related case in Supreme Court of Mauritius<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal>The Software Freedom Law Center is perhaps more appropriate.<br><br>http://www.softwarefreedom.org/<br><br>Incidently, there's an audio podcast concerning employment<br>and NDA:<br><br>http://www.softwarefreedom.org/podcast-media/FaiF_0x0D_NDAs.ogg<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 28/6/11, Ronny R. <i><redoverlord@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>From: Ronny R. <redoverlord@gmail.com><br>Subject: Re: [lugm.org] Fwd: [FTF-Legal] Mildly GPL related case in Supreme Court of Mauritius<br>To: "LUGM Discuss Mailing List" <discuss@lugm.org><br>Date: Tuesday, 28 June, 2011, 17:19<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>i'm ok for asking help from EFF and al.<br><br>whois al anyway? :)<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Ronny<br><br>On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:13 PM, <<a href="/mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com">aadil@lavabit.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Apologies for the spam (SMTP server issues).<br>><br>>> Hello,<br>>><br>>> Of course the LUGM should not get directly involved.<br>>><br>>> How should we proceed then? What do the others think? Is submitting<br>> the documents to the defendant's lawyers the only solution? How about<br>> asking for advice from the EFF and al?<br>>><br>>> Cheers,<br>>> Aadil.<br>>><br>>> On 6/28/2011 7:43 PM, Ronny R. wrote:<br>>>> In law, standing or locus standi is the term for the ability of a party<br>> to demonstrate to the court sufficient connection to and harm from the<br>> law or action challenged to support that party's<br>>>> participation in the case<br>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Ronny R.<<a href="/mc/compose?to=redoverlord@gmail.com">redoverlord@gmail.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>>>>> like i said<br>>>>> this is a civil case, so as long as we dont have a locus standi, we<br>> cannot get involved directly by submitting anything.<br>>>>> The only was we get involved is that the defendant use us as experts<br>> in FOSS laws (which we are not)<br>>>>> We can only get the documents and submit to the defendant's lawyers<br>> who will submit to the court.<br>>>>> I also wonder if the mauritian courts have these documents.<br>>>>> But definitely we cannot allow this case to cause a precedence which<br>> will be used in case of other future case.<br>>>>> Cheers<br>>>>> Ronny<br>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Aadil Noorkhan<<a href="/mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com">aadil@lavabit.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>>>>>> Hello,<br>>>>>> Indeed. The defendant and plaintiff should seek the court's help in<br>> settling this argument.<br>>>>>> It is disturbing to note, however, that statement 5 of the affidavit<br>> contradicts the main points of the GPL.<br>>>>>> This can used as a precedence for future cases.<br>>>>>> Cheers,<br>>>>>> Aadil.<br>>>>>> On 6/28/2011 7:00 PM, Ajay R Ramjatan wrote:<br>>>>>>> Hi,<br>>>>>>> From what I understand, the defendant was contracted to work on<br>>>>>>> some<br>>>>>>> code for Linux Solutions. The defendant decided to publish the code<br>> without the consent of the employer.<br>>>>>>> If that's accurate, the defendant was doing a "work for hire" and was<br>>>>>>> in the wrong to release the code.<br>>>>>>> It does not seem to be a case of a customer buying a PABX product from<br>>>>>>> Linux Solutions and then changing/redistributing GPL code<br>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 18:46, Aadil Noorkhan<<a href="/mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com">aadil@lavabit.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>>>>>>>> Hello,<br>>>>>>>> I agree with Ronny: we are not lawyers and not expert in FOSS<br>> licences.<br>>>>>>>> But<br>>>>>>>> we should have a better understanding of those licences than most<br>> people<br>>>>>>>> and<br>>>>>>>> should point it to the law, while remaining neutral.<br>>>>>>>> Cheers,<br>>>>>>>> Aadil.<br>>>>>>>> On 6/28/2011 6:40 PM, Ronny R. wrote:<br>>>>>>>>> we can also make the applicant aware that we are keen to help the<br>> defendant<br>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Ronny R.<<a href="/mc/compose?to=redoverlord@gmail.com">redoverlord@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>>>>>>>>>> hello<br>>>>>>>>>> my opinion is that<br>>>>>>>>>> 1. we are not lawyers<br>>>>>>>>>> 2. sending a letter to the court is of no use as we dont have any<br>> locus<br>>>>>>>>>> standi<br>>>>>>>>>> 3. we better advise defendant to counter affidavit the one of the<br>> applicant and then we can be of some help<br>>>>>>>>>> but please note that in no case can we act as expert og the GPL<br>> laws,<br>>>>>>>>>> we can provide the text and let the lawyers of the defendant analyse<br>>>>>>>>>> and show to the court.<br>>>>>>>>>> Cheers<br>>>>>>>>>> Ronny<br>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Aadil<br>> Noorkhan<<a href="/mc/compose?to=aadil@lavabit.com">aadil@lavabit.com</a>><br>>>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,<br>>>>>>>>>>> The fraudulent statements in the affidavit are disturbing<br>> indeed.<br>>>>>>>>>>> We should inform the Supreme Court and both parties of the<br>> misleading<br>>>>>>>>>>> statements via email and a letter, backed by solid evidence and<br>> signed<br>>>>>>>>>>> by<br>>>>>>>>>>> the LUGM managing committee, or simply the president.<br>>>>>>>>>>> If no response is received then we sent the letter to the press.<br>> Cheers,<br>>>>>>>>>>> Aadil.<br>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/28/2011 5:24 PM, Avinash Meetoo wrote:<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,<br>>>>>>>>>>>> I have just received this email from Philip Hands in the UK<br>> referring<br>>>>>>>>>>>> to<br>>>>>>>>>>>> a case currently in the Supreme Court of Mauritius. It would seem<br>>>>>>>>>>>> that<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the two parties involved have different opinions on what an<br>> open<br>>>>>>>>>>>> source<br>>>>>>>>>>>> license really is, more specifically the GPL. Someone called<br>> Harald<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Welte has written a post on his blog on this matter.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> A few months ago, someone called me at work asking me about<br>> what<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>>>>>>>>>>>> GPL<br>>>>>>>>>>>> really means but I am not sure whether he is one of the parties<br>> concerned.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you think?<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Avinash<br>>>>>>>>>>>> ---<br>>>>>>>>>>>> From: *Philip Hands*<<a href="/mc/compose?to=phil@hands.com">phil@hands.com</a><mailto:<a href="/mc/compose?to=phil@hands.com">phil@hands.com</a>>><br>> Date: Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 4:01 PM<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [FTF-Legal] Mildly GPL related case in Supreme Court<br>> of<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Mauritius<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Avinash,<br>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm forwarding this to your mailing list in the hope that<br>> someone on<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the list knows how to inform your Supreme Court properly. It<br>> wasn't<br>>>>>>>>>>>> clear to me if that was a subscriber-only list though, so I'm also<br>>>>>>>>>>>> sending it to you direct, as you appear to to be the founder of<br>> the<br>>>>>>>>>>>> LUG. I hope that's OK.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the main point from the attached mail:<br>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2011/06/27/" target="_blank">http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2011/06/27/</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> in which you can see that someone from<br>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.linuxsolutions.mu/" target="_blank">http://www.linuxsolutions.mu/</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to be claiming (under oath) that there is no difference<br>> between<br>>>>>>>>>>>> GPL<br>>>>>>>>>>>> licensed software, and Public Domain.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that any feedback that you have would be welcome,<br>> either on<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="/mc/compose?to=ftf-legal-bounces@fsfeurope.org">ftf-legal-bounces@fsfeurope.org</a><mailto:<a href="/mc/compose?to=ftf-legal-bounces@fsfeurope.org">ftf-legal-bounces@fsfeurope.org</a>><br>> mailing list, or perhaps if you get in<br>>>>>>>>>>>> touch with Harald Welte<<a href="/mc/compose?to=laforge@gnumonks.org">laforge@gnumonks.org</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="/mc/compose?to=laforge@gnumonks.org">laforge@gnumonks.org</a>>>, and he can then update<br>>>>>>>>>>>> his blog (of course, you're welcome to reply to me as well).<br>> Cheers, Phil.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. FYI I'm a long-time Debian Developer, and have hosted the<br>> Debian<br>>>>>>>>>>>> UK<br>>>>>>>>>>>> mirror (ftp.uk.debian.org<<a href="http://ftp.uk.debian.org" target="_blank">http://ftp.uk.debian.org</a>>) since the mid<br>>>>>>>>>>>> 90's<br>>>>>>>>>>>> -- and I make occasional<br>>>>>>>>>>>> contributions to the Free Software Foundation Europe mailing list<br>>>>>>>>>>>> where<br>>>>>>>>>>>> this issue came up.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Harald<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Welte<<a href="/mc/compose?to=laforge@gnumonks.org">laforge@gnumonks.org</a><mailto:<a href="/mc/compose?to=laforge@gnumonks.org">laforge@gnumonks.org</a>>> To:<br>> <a href="/mc/compose?to=ftf-legal@fsfeurope.org">ftf-legal@fsfeurope.org</a><mailto:<a href="/mc/compose?to=ftf-legal@fsfeurope.org">ftf-legal@fsfeurope.org</a>> Date:<br>> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:58:53 +0200<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [FTF-Legal] Mildly GPL related case in Supreme Court<br>> of<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Mauritius<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,<br>>>>>>>>>>>> since I don't expect everyone here is following my blog, I<br>> would<br>>>>>>>>>>>> like<br>>>>>>>>>>>> to<br>>>>>>>>>>>> post a small notice here:<br>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2011/06/27/" target="_blank">http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2011/06/27/</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> The case is mostly about whether or not a freelancing<br>> contractor<br>>>>>>>>>>>> (defendant) has broken and NDA and anti-competition clauses he<br>> signed<br>>>>>>>>>>>> with the plaintiff.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't understand all the details as I have only some of the<br>> documents, but for whatever reasons a "duly authorized<br>> marketing<br>>>>>>>>>>>> and<br>>>>>>>>>>>> sales executive" of the company ceritifed under oath that<br>> "open-source<br>>>>>>>>>>>> software like "Linux" have no copyright restrictions, which in<br>> effect<br>>>>>>>>>>>> puts no restrictions on their user or distribution". And<br>> furthermore,<br>>>>>>>>>>>> "any work derived from the open source software [...] becomes the<br>>>>>>>>>>>> ownership of the applicant"<br>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't really see how this is cloesly related to the heart of the<br>>>>>>>>>>>> case,<br>>>>>>>>>>>> but I still think it's devastating to see such an argument be<br>> made in<br>>>>>>>>>>>> front of the highest court of any (albeit small) country. I'm<br>> not sure what can be done by the outside world (e.g. us) to<br>> help<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>>>>>>>>>>>> court understand that Linux as well as Asterisk are very well<br>> copyrighted works, and that at least Linux is only available<br>> under<br>>>>>>>>>>>> GPLv2, which has a number of conditions on its distribution. If<br>> anyone is interested in this, I have some more documetns<br>> that<br>>>>>>>>>>>> the<br>>>>>>>>>>>> defendant has permitted me to share (not sure if he has<br>> authority to<br>>>>>>>>>>>> permit that, but well...).<br>>>>>>>>>>>> (and in case you wonder, Mauritius has signed the Berne<br>> convention in<br>>>>>>>>>>>> 1989).<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Specifically if anyone has an interest to send some kind of<br>> letter/amicus curiae to the court clarifying the issue, it<br>> would<br>>>>>>>>>>>> be<br>>>>>>>>>>>> great. Apparently there are arguments on the lines of "you cannot<br>>>>>>>>>>>> just<br>>>>>>>>>>>> download the GPL text from the internet and claim it is valid"<br>> etc.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> The Judge seemed to describe himself as 'computer illiterate'.<br>> Maybe there are also some existing English legal publications<br>> that<br>>>>>>>>>>>> one<br>>>>>>>>>>>> could DHL/FedEx/UPS to the court ;)<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Harald<br>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>>>>>>>>>>>> - Harald<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Welte<<a href="/mc/compose?to=laforge@gnumonks.org">laforge@gnumonks.org</a><mailto:<a href="/mc/compose?to=laforge@gnumonks.org">laforge@gnumonks.org</a>>><br>> <a href="http://laforge.gnumonks.org/" target="_blank">http://laforge.gnumonks.org/</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================================================================<br>> "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing<br>> option."<br>>>>>>>>>>>> (ETSI EN 300<br>>>>>>>>>>>> 175-7<br>>>>>>>>>>>> Ch.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> A6)<br>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>>>>>>>>> FTF-Legal mailing list<br>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="/mc/compose?to=FTF-Legal@fsfeurope.org">FTF-Legal@fsfeurope.org</a><mailto:<a href="/mc/compose?to=FTF-Legal@fsfeurope.org">FTF-Legal@fsfeurope.org</a>><br>> <a href="https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/ftf-legal" target="_blank">https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/ftf-legal</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>>>>>>>>>>>> |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560<br>>>>>>>>>>>> <tel:%5B%2B44%20%280%2920%208530%209560>] <a href="http://www.hands.com/" target="_blank">http://www.hands.com/</a><br>> |-| HANDS.COM<<a href="http://HANDS.COM" target="_blank">http://HANDS.COM</a>> Ltd.<br>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.uk.debian.org/" target="_blank">http://www.uk.debian.org/</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE<br>> ENGLAND<br>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>>>>>>>>>>>> *Avinash 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__________________________________________________________<br>> Linux User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list<br>> Website: <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list archive:<br>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> Forum: <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>>>>>>>>>>>> IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode<br>>>>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________ Linux<br>> User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list Website:<br>> <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list archive:<br>> <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a><br>>>>>>>>>>> Forum: <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>>>>>>>>>>> IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode<br>>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________ Linux<br>> User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list<br>>>>>>>>> Website: <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>>>>>>>>> Mailing list archive: <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a><br>> Forum: <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>>>>>>>>> IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode<br>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________<br>>>>>>>> Linux User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list<br>>>>>>>> Website: <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>>>>>>>> Mailing list archive: <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a><br>> Forum: <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>>>>>>>> IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode<br>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________<br>>>>>>> Linux User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list<br>>>>>>> Website: <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>>>>>>> Mailing list archive: <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a><br>> Forum: <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>>>>>>> IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode<br>>>>>> __________________________________________________________<br>>>>>> Linux User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list<br>>>>>> Website: <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>>>>>> Mailing list archive: <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a><br>> Forum: <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>>>>>> IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode<br>>>> __________________________________________________________<br>>>> Linux User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list<br>>>> Website: <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>>>> Mailing list archive: <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a><br>> Forum: <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>>>> IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode<br>>><br>>><br>>> __________________________________________________________<br>>> Linux User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list<br>>> Website: <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>>> Mailing list archive: <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a> Forum:<br>> <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>>> IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode<br>>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> __________________________________________________________<br>> Linux User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list<br>> Website: <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>> Mailing list archive: <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a><br>> Forum: <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>> IRC: #linux.mu on Freenode<br>><br><br>__________________________________________________________<br>Linux User Group of Mauritius (LUGM) Discuss mailing list<br>Website: <a href="http://lugm.org" target="_blank">http://lugm.org</a><br>Mailing list archive: <a href="http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/pipermail/discuss_lugm.org/</a><br>Forum: <a href="http://lugm.org/forum/" target="_blank">http://lugm.org/forum/</a><br>IRC: #linux.mu on 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